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The Other Side of the Coin

Okay, so the whole thing sounds good, but man, that 40% referral fee sounds high. Why is is so much? Actually, there are several reasons.


The Business Model

First, let me break down how the referral fees work again. On every transaction that an Advisor completes with a NARREIA client (except their own clients, of course), NARREIA receives a 5% referral fee. This is used to offset the cost of the website, the high cost of identifying and screening potential Advisors, flying to their market to interview them (which may happen several times in a market until we find the right Advisor), and marketing and networking for clients. I have personally spent several hundred thousand dollars building it to this point, and we have several investors looking at financing a huge chunk of it. So, out of the 35% total referral, 5% is to pay for the network. This is why there are no fees for Clients, Agents, or Advisors. The money has to come from somewhere, and this is the business model that will encourage thousands of Clients to join, risk free.


The remainder of the referral fee goes to the Agent who refers the client in. That Agent could be me. NARREIA will market very hard to build a large number of clients, and the clients that come via NARREIA marketing will be assigned to NARREIA (which is currently me, but it may, in the future, be another agent of record). The Agent could be another Advisor, and I expect that once the Advisors see how easy it is, they will be referring a lot. The Agent could be someone in your office, or my office, or an office in Tulsa. There may not be a lot of investing going on in Mansfield, Ohio, but there's still money in Mansfield. An agent in Mansfield might be working with one of those clients, or maybe it's their relative. They didn't have any property to sell them in Mansfield, but by being affiliated with NARREIA, they gain access to a network of investor- savvy agents who do have good investments for their clients or relatives. Or the Agent might be you. And it should be you.


Volume with No Additional Marketing Cost

So, we're back to the question, why so high? You might understand the 5% going to NARREIA. After all, it has to be paid for some how, and this way the only time NARREIA is paid is if the Client buys or sells a property (their objective) and the Advisor gets a commission (their objective.) .Why do we need to agree to the other 30%? The answer is volume. The industry standard for referrals is 20%-25%, with 25% seemingly the going rate. So anyone can negotiate a 25% referral fee, and if the first person that answers the phone says no to 25%, the next person will be okay with it. I would venture to guess that every person reading this page has given out several 25% referral fees, and if you haven't, you more than likely haven't done a ton of business.


The average real estate investment transaction is about $250,000 these days. With a 3% co-op, which is not a standard but is a co-op that is frequently seen, that means a GCI (Gross Commission Income) of $7,500. A 25% referral fee would be $1,875, whereas a 30% referral fee would be $2,250, or a $375 difference. How much did you spend in marketing last year? How many clients did you have last year? What was the cost of marketing per client? I'll bet if you added up all of your marketing costs and divided it by the number of transactions, it came to a lot more than $375 per transaction. If it didn't, you're under-marketing yourself and should be doing a lot higher volume.


The High Referral Fee is Actually a Benefit to the Advisors

If you are sitting there considering whether you should become an Advisor or not, and your hang-up is the 30% referral fee to the Agents, consider this. Let's say you opt not to do it and we find another individual in your area. Let's assume that the other agent gets only 10 deals from NARREIA next year. That's 10 transactions they would not have had, period. The ONLY way they got them was because they were with NARREIA. So the difference between the 30% and the 25% is $375, or in this case, a total of $3,750. Wow, $3,750 is a lot. But that agent also got to keep an additional $48,750, their take in the deals. No marketing cost on these, by the way. With the NARREIA 5% already paid, by the way, they clear $48,750. Remember, you don't pay any fees unless you close a deal, and not until YOU get paid. Don't forget the Advisor could have referred in several clients as well, receiving the referral fee. If they only referred in 10 clients and they did a single deal each, it is basically like they did 10 total transactions and got amost the same amount of commission.


Let's take this a step further. Let's say last year the Advisor did 10 deals from clients that came from Agents and not Advisors. They also referred 10 transactions to NARREIA Advisors. They would get 65% of the 10 deals that came from Agents and 30% from deals that they referred out, so they got 90% and their own Clients were able to diversify their portfolio. But then this year, the Advisor did 10 deals with the exact same clients, and they referred out their exact same clients. Because the Clients from Agents only incur a 30%+ referral fee, they are getting to keep 70% of the 10 transactions. But since they are Advisors, and their referral fee schedule is better and longer, they receive a 30% referral fee for life. So they'll get 70% of 10 transactions they did in their own market and 30% of 10 transactions that their Clients did in other markets! This is a good example of why referring Clients in is a very powerful advantage of being an Advisor. The third year, the clients are now ready to sell their properties. Because they have been with NARREIA 2 years and are assigned to Agents, there is no longer a referral fee due to the Agent, so the Advisor sends NARREIA a 5% referral and keeps 95% on TWENTY homes. Their clients are now in their third year, and for Advisors, that means they still get a 30% referral. So in the third year, they are keeping 30% of the commission on 20 deals. This example is a very neat and easy way to explain how the referral fee works in the Advisor's favor, but it is overly simplified. Depending on your current Client database and your future marketing skills, you could theoretically refer more Clients in than you receive from other Agents, and that would just improve your take.


Being an Advisor does not preclude you from doing your own transactions. Some Advisors in hot markets will be flooded with NARREIA clients, which is one of the reasons that we try to put 2-4 Advisors in each market. Some Advisors are in less active markets, but there are always deals in any market, you just have to know where to go to find them. (And that place can be found at www.NARREIA.com.)


A Strong Referral Fee Encourages Thousands of Agents to Refer their Clients

Now, consider the Agents who come across our site. They are going to see 30% referral and say, "HOLY COW! I just got a 25% referral fee on ONE stinking transaction, and here I could be receiving 30% on every deal in the first two years? SIGN ME UP!" I know several agents in my office that would say that. I'm sure you know several agents in your office that would say that. I'll bet you know several agents in the Coldwell Banker office across town that would say that. And in the Keller Williams office down the street, and in the C21 brokerage downtown. And in all of those offices in the next city over. And the next city to that. Get the picture? See why I think this thing is going to explode? Oh, I forgot to bring it up recently, but it's all FREE to these Agents and their Clients. The unbelievable website. Access to the tools and data. Access to experts in every market across the US (that's you, by the way.) Free. Now reread this paragraph with the "FREE" word etched in your brain, and again, you'll see why this thing is already on fire.


Geographical Diversification of the Clients' Portfolios

It's sad that I have to bring up the monetary benefit so strongly, because it's my philosophy to create the system and the money will flow. That is how a lot of people I work with think. That is how most of the wealthy people I know operate. But there is a much better reason to offer the 30% referral fee, better than enticing the Agents outside of the group to refer in. It can be boiled down to this: geographical diversification of your client's portfolio.


When people talk about stocks, you hear them talking about "diversifying their portfolio." It's the opposite of the "all your eggs in one basket" concept. Don't put your entire retirement into one stock, lest it go down (or out) and you lose the whole thing. Oddly enough, most people don't think about this when it comes to real estate investing. They think diversification means buying one on the north side of town and one in the south. At NARREIA, we encourage diversification of our client's portfolio, both geographically as well as across the various real estate investment vehicles (rentals, rehabs, foreclosures, multi-unit, income producing, flips, rapidly appreciating, etc.) Actually, we even think it's a good idea to keep some money in the stock market or some other non-real estate oriented investment (if you know what you're doing).


This is where the 30% comes in. If an agent is working with an investor, that investor has a finite amount of capital that they are going to spend on real estate investing. Traditionally, an agent will want to keep their client in their market because that was the only way for them to benefit from their client's capital expenditure. Think about it, if your client buys a property out of your market, you are lucky to get a one-time good deal of a 25% referral fee. But if you are going to receive 30%, and you're sending an investor who is likely to do more than one transaction, you could earn a decent living never doing another transaction again. If they buy 3 properties from our Advisor in Boise (Lyndon Holdeman, a really good guy, by the way), you just made 90% commission, didn't do anything but register your client and point them to the contact info. (Although, I would hope your relationship with your client would be good enough that you'd be more actively involved than that, but it's not required)


So if an agent is getting a third of the commission and doesn't have to find the property, deal with escrow, deal with the lender, handle the inspections, follow up on the repairs, or get the property manager to get a tenant in there, they'll be inclined to help their clients diversify their portfolios geographically. This might be a case of doing the right thing for the wrong reason (personal monetary benefit), but in the end, it's the right thing, and that's what matters.


I mentioned that there is a finite amount of capital that your client will spend in real estate investment, and for the most part that is true. But I have seen clients that tell me they have about $100,000 in capital to burn, and when I tell them about the agents and conditions in Boise, Albuquerque, Cocoa Beach and Austin, they tend to find a little more capital. So I bust my butt to find them two or three properties in Vegas and then send them to Lyndon and the other Advisors to do the rest of the work. We just created a real estate transaction or three that probably never was going to happen, but we put the right property in front of the right person. With the numbers of clients we expect, we should have several "right persons." Coincidentally, with the number of Advisors that could and should be sending properties via email, we should have several "right places" at the exact "right time." Making real estate a commodity. (I must pause to wipe a tear.)


Most Referral Fees are gone after a Client has been registered with NARREIA for two years

When an Agent refers a Client into NARREIA, they receive a 30% referral fee for any contract written by a NARREIA Advisor in the first two years the client is registered with NARREIA. That's very generous considering the industry standard is a 20-25% referral fee on one (maybe two, if you know it's coming) transactions, period. Upon a Client's second anniversary with NARREIA, a referral fee is no longer due to the Agent that referred them into the group. Realize, if you buy a property for a client this year, they will probably keep it 1-5 years. If they hold it for two years, when you go to sell it, you will not owe the Agent a referral fee, and will only owe NARREIA a 5% referral fee. There are definite short-term benefits, but there are long-term benefits as well.


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